case sir thomas pickering case if land be purchase by husband and wife and the  husband die leave his heir within age the king shall not have the land but  body only in wardship roll ab hob if the king make his ware within age a  knight the wardship both of body and land be extinct for he thereby admit he  of full age ante   a infant ware create a knight shall be charge with all mean  rate from the death of the tenant without office find for they be vest in the  king a infant ware make a knight be not Chargeable with mean rate until he  come of full age process of ad to sum up pro good valour against the king ware  be illegal it be find by office after the death of sir John Pickering that he  and his wife purchase the manor of Weston in the county of Hertford hold of  the king by a by car c no ecclesiastical judge shall tender ail oath ex duty  or any oath whereby any person may be charge to accuse himself of any criminal  matter see stram b see Edward c S croak James er p knight service in capite to  they and the heir of sir John Pickering and that he die seize thereof and of  two other manor hold in socage and that Thomas Pickering his son and heir be  within the age of twentyone year croak throw and that his wife survive he  whereby during her life there can not be any wardship of the land but of the  body only afterward in may James lady Pickering die in June James Thomas  Pickering be within age be make knight in do you James he attain his age of  twentyone year and tender his livery and sue a special livery within the time  wherein be a pardon of all intrusion action suit account execution and demand  except debt or money by reason of any office or treasure of the king convert  or by reason of any debt due by any obligation or recognizance and  notwithstanding the auditor rate a charge upon he for the mean rate after the  death of lady Pickering until his age of twentyone year and process be award  thereupon et ad computand pro good valour and hereupon sir Thomas Pickering  come and show the day when he be make knight and the special livery in  discharge of the mean rate and as to the other charge ad to sum up he demurrer  a case be hereupon make and refer to the judge which be debate by Hobart chief  justice of common plea and by Tanfield chief baron first whether he shall be  charge for mean rate betwixt the death of lady Pickering and his be make  knight there be no office find after the death of the say lady?And they  resolve that he shall be charge with the mean rate until he be make knight  although there be not any office find after the lady death which if it have be  find be clear that he shall be charge for then the king have be in possession  of the land and entitle to the profit in which case a special livery will  never have discharge they for that do not discharge the possession nor give  that which be in possession no more than a release of a common person can give  a thing in possession and the common experience of the court be that a special  livery shall be construe accord to the intent to discharge that which be not  in possession but be conceal but not to discharge any thing which be in  possession but here the doubt be because there be not any office find after  the death of the lady which entitle the king to the land for the other office  after the death of sir John Pickering entitle he but to the body but because  there be a office before find the estate by reason whereof he be in ware for  his body and for the reversion and it be a usual course in the court not to  have a office after the death of a tenant for life when there be a office  before find the inheritance but all shall come in by the feodaries certificate  which be the information to the court and it be the usual course for ease to  the subject to accept of such certificate and not to enforce the find several  office it be resolve that he shall be charge second whether he shall be charge  with they betwixt the time of his knight and attain his full age?And they  resolve that for the mean rate betwixt his be make knight and come of full age  he be not Chargeable for the king by make he knight have thereby dispense with  his minority and he be in law account as if de facto he be of full age croak  throw three whether this charge ad to sum up pro good valour there be no  office nor former precedent to warrant it be allowable?They resolve that this  last charge be not warrant by the law and be without former precedent be not  Allowable for the king by way of charge can impose a great value than be find  in the office but in his composition for commit the land he may impose what  value he please for it be his bargain and he may retain it in his hand if he  please and the other who take it at a great value than be comprise in the  office be at his election whether he will take it or not but to lie a charge  upon the heir more than be in the office without another office or survey to  enhance it be not Allowable 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