coke a TOURSONS case pasch James a inquisition find a person a idiot a birth  entitle the king to the profit of the idiot land from the time of find the  office but shall have relation back to the time of his birth for avoid all  mesne act do by he William Tourson a idiot a birth by force of a remainder  after the death of his father be joint seize with his elder brother for term  of their life the lessor purchase the estate of the elder brother and take the  body of the idiot and all the profit of the land and afterward William Tourson  be find a idiot a birth by inquisition the question be whether the king shall  have the mesne profit of the moiety from the time of the first seize of the  idiot or from the time of the office and it be resolve that the king shall not  have the profit but after the office and yet to some intent the office shall  have relation from the time of the birth sure to avoid all mesne act do by the  idiot and therewith agree f n b e and a   b   light a Stan praer b Inst a e to  know facias e to know facias ass pl c vide beverley case in the four part of  my report but for the mesne profit it shall not have relation but from the  time of the office find vin ab moon b Bac ab idiot and moon f   light postea b  for thereby it appear of record that the king have right to seize the land as  if the king tenant commit felony year James and afterward year he be attaint  for the same felony and afterward year all be find by office now this office  shall have relation to the time of the felony to avoid all mesne alienation  and encumbrance but for the mesne profit it shall have relation to the time of  the attainder for then the king title appear of record and therewithagree blow  Com and Edward by Kirton vide h Br chart dePardon and there be a difference  when the king shall have the custody by reason of a signiory as in case of  wardship there the king after office find shall have the mesne profit from the  time of the death of the ancestor for there the king have the custody coke b  by reason of his signiory and be lose his rend and service in the mean time  but the king have the custody of a idiot not in respect coke report a er p of  any signiory but jure protection sum king because his subject be not able to  govern himself nor the land or tenement which he have and this protection  begin by the office find and the statute de Prrogativa king cap say quod king  to have custodiam the earth fatuor to take in hand exitus c et to come upon  the dawn necessarian svan c by which it appear that the king shall take the  profit from the time that he be charge with the find of the idiot and his  family necessary and that be after the office find so that when the king seize  jure protection king as in the case at bar or nomin severity as in case of  alienation of land in capite without licence or of marriage of his widow  without licence there after office find the king shall not have any mesne  profit before the office as it be hold in e ass pl but when the king seize  ration earlier times recti seu distinction by reason of a former right or  title there the king shall have the mesne profit from the time of his right or  title first accrue as ass pl from the time of the condition break Edward from  the time of the alienation of his tenant in mortmain and if the land be hold  of other from the time of the title devolve to he e forfeiture upon the  statute of Westminster cap which give the contra form comparison from the time  of the alienation for by those act the king title and right accrue vide e Vill  ass pl e and in the principal case no precedent can be find that the king be  answer the mesne profit before the office find but only after the office and  so the qure in stamford Prrogativa king b be well resolve