a wise and moderate discourse concern church affair it be but ignorance if any  man find it strange that the state of religion especial in the day of peace  shall be exercise and trouble with controversy for as it be the condition of  the church militant to be ever under trial so it come to pass that when the  fiery trial of persecution cease there succeed another trial which as it be by  contrary blast of doctrine do sift and winow man faith and prove they whether  they know God aright even as the other of affliction discover whether they  love he better then the world accord be it foretell by Christ say that in the  latter time it shall be say lo here lo there be Christ which be to be  understand not as if the very person of Christ shall be assume and counterfeit  but his authority and preeminence which ought to be truth it self that shall  be challenge and pretend thus have we read and see to be fulfil that which  follow here it be in desert here it be in piercing while some have seek the  truth in the conventicle and conciliables of heretic and sectary other in the  extern face and representation of the church and both sort be seduce be it  then that the controversy of the church of England be such as do divide the  unity of the spirit and not such as do unswaddle her of her band the band of  peace yet can it be no occasion for any pretend catholic to judge we or for  any irreligious person to despise we or if it be it shall but happen to we all  as it have use to do to they to be harden and to we to endure the good  pleasure of God but now that our contention be such as we needs not so much  that general canon and sentence of Christ an error not to know writing c as we  needs the admonition of saint James let every man be swift to hear slow to  speak slow to wrath and that the wound be no way dangerous except we poison it  with our own remedy as the former sort of man have less reason to make  themselves music in our cord so I have good hope that nothing shall displease  our self which shall be sincere and modest propound for the appease of these  dissension for if any shall be offend at this voice Vos to eat brother you be  brother why strive you he shall give great presumption against himself that he  be the party that do his brother wrong the controversy themselves I will not  enter into as judge that disease require rather rest then any other cure thus  much we all know and confess that they be not of the high nature for they be  not touch the high mystery of faith such as detain the church after their  first peace for many year what time the heretic move curious question and make  strange anatomy of the nature and person of Christ and the catholic father be  compel to follow they with all subtlety of disputation and determination to  exclude they from their evasion and to take they in their own labyrinth so as  it be right say strike against time full of intellect res to be be  the most Christian in those day it be a ingenious and subtle matter to be a  Christian neither be they concern the great part of the worship of God of  which it be true that non to make safe unity in to give as a loan nisi  by the same route planted at in to till there will be keep no unity in believe  except it be entire in worship such as be the controversy in the east and west  church touch image and such as be many of those which be between the church of  Rome and we as about the adoration of the sacrament and the like but we  contend about ceremony and thing indifferent about the extern policy and  government of the church in which kind if we will but remember that the  ancient and true bind of unity be one faith one baptism and not one ceremony  one policy if we will observe the league among Christian that be pen by our  saviour Christ he that be not against we be with we if we can but comprehend  that say difference ritu recommended  unity education and that to have  reverence who are eternity to have who are time religion have part which  belong to eternity and part which belong to time and if we do but know the  virtue of silence and slowness to speak commend by saint James our controversy  will of themselves close up and grow together but most especial if we will  leave the overween and turbulent humour of these time and renew the bless  proceed of the apostle and father of the primitive church which be in the like  and great case not to enter into assertion and position but to dliver counsel  and advice we shall needs no other remedy at all si cadem plant  frater how  affirm to withhold to meet and consider respect come non to withhold fides  affirmant brother if that which you set down by way of assertion you will  deliver by way of advice there be reverence due to your counsel where credit  be not due to your affirmation saint Paul be content to speak thus ego non  dominus I and not the lord secundum a council meum ording to my counsel but  now man do so light say not I but the lord yea and bind it with heavy  denunciation of his judgement to terrify the simple which have not sufficient  understand out of Salomon that the causeless curse shall not come therefore  see the accident be they which breed the peril and not the thing themselves in  their own nature it be meet the remedy be apply unto they by open what it be  on either part that keep the wound green and formalizes both side to a further  opposition and work a indisposition in man mind to be reunite wherein no  accusation be pretend but I find in reason that it be best build by repetition  of wrong and in example that the speech which have be by the wise man de  concurrence agreement row have not abstain from reduce to memory the extremity  use on both part so as it be true which be say who peace draw non  to fall upon again creating separation be to greater extent mind sweetness  peace to trip how justice componit and first of all it be more then time that  a end be make of this unmodest and deform kind of write late entertain whereby  matter of religion be handle in the style of the stage indeed bitter and  earnest write be not hasty to be condemn for man can contend cold and without  affection about thing they hold deer and precious a politic man may write from  his brain without touch or sense of his heart as in a speculation that pertain  not unto he but a feel Christian will express in his word a character either  of zeal or love the latter of which as I will wish ratherto be embrace as be  more fit for the time yet be the former warrant also by great example but to  leave all reverend and religious compassion towards evil or indignation  towards fault to turn religion into a comedy or satyr to search and rip up  wound with a laugh countenance to intermix scripture and Scurrilility sometime  in one sentence be a thing far from the devour reverence of a Christian and  scant beseem the honest regard of a sober man non be major mingling how row  joke there be no great confusion then the confound of jest and earnest the  majesty of religion and the contempt and deformity of thing ridiculous be  thing as distant as thing may be two principal cause have I ever know of  atheism curious controversy and profane scoff now that these two be join in  one no doubt that sect will make no small progression and here I do much  esteem the wisdom and religion of that bishop which reply to the first  pamphlet of this kind who remember that a fool be to be answer but not by  become like unto he and consider the matter he handle and not the person with  who he deal job speak of the majesty and gravity of a judge in himself say if  I do smile they believe I not as if he shall have say if I divert or glance  unto conceit of mirth yet man mind be so possess with a reverence of the  action in hand as they can not receive it much more ought this to be among  bishop and divine dispute about holy thing and therefore as much do I mislike  of he who as it seem please himself with it as no mean policy that these man  be to be deal withal at their own weapon and pledge in their own cup this no  doubt seem to he as profound as when the cardinal counsel Julius the second to  encounter the Council of nice with the Council of lateran or as lawful a  challenge as m jewel make to confute the pretend catholic by the father but  these thing will not excuse the imitation of evil in another it shall  contrariwise be with we as Caesar say nil evil how eos simile come Himself I  urinate but now dumb de good to stretch in malis to agree while we differ in  good thing we resemble in evil sure if I be ask of these man who be the more  to be blame I shall perhaps remember the proverb that the second blow make the  fray and the say of a obscure fellow who turn back  multiply he that reply  multiply but I will determine the question with this stutterer alter  principium evil devoted to alter manner to take away by the one mean we have a  beginning by the other we shall have none end and true as I do marvel that  some of those preacher which do call for transformation who I be far from  wrong so far as to join they with these scoffer do not publish some  declaration whereby they may satisfy the world that they dislike their cause  shall be so solicit so I hope assure that my lord of the clergy have no  intelligence with these other libeler but do altogether disallow that their  deal shall be thus defend for though I observe in he many gloze whereby the  man will insinuate himself into their favour yet I find too ordinary that many  press fawn person do misconjecture of the humour of man in authority and many  time of to to Venus immola swine they seek to gratify they with that they most  dislike for I have great reason to satisfy my self touch the judgement of my  lord the bishop in this matter by that which be write by one of they who I  mention before with honour nevertheless I note there be not a indifferent hand  carry towards these pamphlet as they deserve for the one sort fly in darkness  and the other be utter open wherein I may advice that side out of a wise  writer who have set it down that to punish nature to swell authority and  indeed we ever see it fall out that the forbid write be think to be a certain  spark of truth that fly up in the face of they that feeke to choke and tread  it out whereas a book authorize be think to be but time voces the language of  the time but in plain truth I do find to my understanding these pamphlet as  meet to be suppress as the other first as the former do seek to deface the  government of the church in the person of the bishop and prelate so the other  do lead into contempt the exercise of religion in the person of sundry  preacher so as it disgrace the high matter though in the mean person next I  find certain indiscreet and dangerous amplification as if the civil government  if self of this estate have near lose the force of its sinew and be ready to  enter into some convulsion all thing be full of faction and disorder which be  as unwise acknowledge as true affirm I know his meaning be to enforce this  unreverent and violent impugn of the government of the bishop to be a suspect  before runner of a more general contempt and I grant there be a sympathy  between both the estate but no such matter in the civil policy as deserve a  taxation so dishonourable to conclude this point as it be to be wish that  these write have be abortive and never see the sun so the next be that see  they be common abroad that they be censure of all that have understanding and  conscience as the untemperate extravagant of some light person yea further  they may beware except they mean to deprive themselves of all sense of  religion and to pave their own heart and to make they as the high way how they  be conversant in they and much more how they delight themselves in that vein  but rather to turn their laugh into blush and to be amaze as at a short  madness that they have in matter of religion take their disport and solace but  this perchance be one of those fault which will be soon acknowledge though I  perceive nevertheless there want not some which seek to blanch and excuse it  but to descend to a more narrow view and consideration of the accident and  circumstance of these controversy wherein either part deserve blame and  imputation I find general in cause of Churchcontroversies that man do offend  in some or all of these five point the first the give of occasion unto  controversy and also the inconsiderate and ungrounded take of the occasion the  next be the extend and multiply of controversy to a more general opposition  and contradiction then appear at the first propound of they when man judgement  be least partial the three be the passionate and unbrotherly practice and  proceed on both part towards the person each of other for their discredit and  suppression the four be the course hold and and entertain on either side for  the draw of the practizants to a more straight union within themselves which  ever import a further destruction of the entire body the last be the undue and  inconvenient propound publish and debate of the controversy in which point the  most palpable error have be already speak of as that which through the  strangeness and freshness of the abuse first offer it self to the conceit of  all man now concern the occasion of controversy it can be deny but that the  imperfection in the conversation and government of those which have chief  place in the church have ever be principal cause and motive of schism and  division for while the bishop and governor of the church continue full of  knowledge and good work while they feed their flock indeed while they deal  with the secular estate in all liberty and resolution accord to the majesty of  their call and the precious care of soul impose upon they so long the church  be situate as it be upon a hill no man make question of it or seek to depart  from it but when these virtue in the father and elder of the church have lose  their light and that they wax worldly lover of themselves and pleaser of man  then man begin to grope for the church as in the dark they be in doubt whether  they be the successor of the apostle or of the pharisees yea howsoever they  sit in Moses chair yet they can never speak tanquam origination to have as  have authority because they lose their reputation in the conscience of man by  decline their step from the way which they trace out to other so as man have  needs continual sound in their ear this say  not to go out go not out so ready  be they to depart from the church upon every voice and therefore it be true  note by one who writ as a natural man that the hypocrisy of friar do for a  great time maintain and bear out the irreligion of bishop and prelate for this  be that double policy of the spiritual enemy either by counterfeit holiness of  life to authorize and establish error or by the corruption of manner to  discredit and call into question truth and lawful thing this concern my lord  the bishop unto who I be witness to my self that I stand affect as I ought no  contradiction have supplant in I the reverence I owe to their call neither  have any detraction or calumny embase my opinion of their person I know some  of they who name be most pierce with these accusation to be man of great  virtue although indisposition of the time and the want of correspondence many  way be enough to frustrate the best endeavour in the church and for the rest  general I can condemn none I be no judge of they that belong to so high a  master neither have I two witness and I know it be true say of fame equally  fanctam and not done to be gray their taxation arise nor all from one coast  they have indifferent enemy and ready to invent slander more ready to amplify  and most ready to believe it magnes lie credulity credulity be the allurement  of lie but if any be who have against the supreme bishop not a few thing but  many if any have lose his first love if any be neither hot nor cold if any  have stumble to folly at the threshold in such sort that he can sit well that  enter ill it be time they return whence they be fall and confirm the thing  which remain great be the weight of this fault et the dawn cause  to shrink back from man a sacrifice domini and for their cause do man abhor  the worship of God but howsoever it be that those have seek to defame they  cast contempt upon they be not to beexcused it be the precept of Salomon that  the ruler be not reproach no not in think but that we draw our conceit into a  modest interpretation of their do the holy angel will give no sentence of  blasphemy against the common slanderer but say to sound te dominus the lord  rebuke thou the apostle saint Paul think against he that do pollute sacred  justice with tyrannous violence he do just denounce the judgement of God in  faying Percuciet te dominus the lord shall strike thou yet in say paries  dealbate he though the have go too far and retract it whereupon a learned  father say Self how vis inane nomen shade priest to consider thoroughly  to be terrified the ancient counsel and synod as it be note by the  ecclesiastical story when they deprive any bishop never record the offence but  bury it in perpetual silence only cham purchase his father curse with reveal  his father disgrace and yet a much great fault be it to ascend from the person  to the call and to draw that in question many good father rigorous compiained  of the unworthiness of bishop as if it do present forfeit cease their office  one say sacerdote to call non to be we be call priest and be not another say  nisi good opus to twine around bishop be non drink except thou undertake the  good work thou can not be a bishop yet they mean nothing less then to move  doubt of their call or ordination the second occasion of cotroversies be the  nature humour of some man the church never want a kind of person that love the  salutation of rabbi not in ceremony or compliment but in a inward authority  which they seek over man mind in draw they to depend upon their opinion and so  seek knowledge at their lip these man be the true successor of diotrephes the  lover of preeminence and not lord bishop such spirit do light upon another  sort of nature which do adhere to these man quorum glory in servility stiff  fellow and such as zeal marvellous for those who they have choose to be their  master this latter sort of man for the most part be man of young year and  superficial understanding carry away with partial respect of person or with  the entice appearance of godly name and pretence little res Self to follow  more nomina a thing most number of things nomina a master few follow the thing  themselves more the name of the thing most the name of their master about  these general affection be wretched accidental and private emulation and  discontentment all which break forth together into contention such as either  violate truth sobriety or peace these generalty apply themselves the  university be the seat and continent of this disease whence it have be and be  derive into other part of the realm there some will be no long e numero of the  number there some other side themselves before they know the right hand from  the leave so as it be true say transeunt ab ignorance and prejudicium they  leap from ignorance to a prejudicate opinion and never take a good judgement  in their way but as it be well note Inter juvenile judgment senile prejudicium  all men  veritas to destroy when man be indifferent and not partial then their  judgement be weak and unripe through want of year and when it grow to strength  and ripeness by that time it be forestall with such a number of prejudicate  opinion as it be make unprofitable so as between these two all truth be  corrupt while the honourable name of sincerity and reformation and discipline  be put in the forward so as contention and evil zeal can be touch except these  holy thing be first think to be violate but howsoever they shall infer the  solicitation for the peace of the church not to proceed from carnal sin yet  will I ever conclude with the apostle Paul come sit inter thou zeal  raising voice nun carnal things to eat while there be among you zeal and  contention be you not carnal and howsoever they esteem the compound of  controversy to savour of man wisdom and humane policy I think themselves lead  with the wisdom which be from above yet I say with saint James non be this  prudence de up descendant say of the globe animal devilish Ibi zeal  raising voice there inconsistency all things  opus crooked of this inconstancy  it be say by a learned father to go before non and perfection say and change  they seek to go forward still not to perfection but to change the three  occasion of controversy I observe to be a extreme and unlimited detestation of  some former heresy or corruption of the church acknowledge convict this be the  cause that produce the heresy of Arrius ground chief upon detestation of  gentilism lest the Christian shall seem by assertion of the coequal divinity  of our saviour Christ to approach to the acknowledgement of more God then one  the detestation of Arrius heresy produce that of Sabellius who hold for  execrable the dissimilitude which Arri we pretend in the trinity flee so far  from he that he fall into the other extreme to deny the distinction of person  and to say they be but only name of several office and dispensation yea most  of the heresy of the church have spring up of this root while man have make it  their scale to measure the bind of their religion take it by the far distance  from the error last condemn these be Posthumi a sect son heresy that arise of  the ash of other heresy that be extinct and amortised this manner of  apprehension do in some degree possess many of our time they think it the true  touch stone to try what be good and holy by measure what be more and less  opposite to the institution of the church of Rome be it ceremony be it policy  or government yea be it other institution of great weight that be ever most  perfect which be remove most degree from that church and that be ever pollute  and blemish which participate in any appearance with it this be a subtle and  dangerous conceit for man to entertain apt to delude themselves more apt to  delude the people and most apt of all to calumniate their adversary this sure  but that a notorious condemnation of that position be lie before our eye have  long since bring we to the rebaptizing of child baptise accord to the pretend  catholic religion for I see that which be a matter of much like reason which  be the reordaining of priest be a matter very resolute maintain it be very  meet that man beware how they be abuse by this opinion and that they know it  be a consideration of much great wisdom to be well advice whether in the  general demolition of the institution of the church of Rome there be not as  man action be unperfect some good purge with the bid rather then to purge the  church as they pretend every day anew which be the way to make a wound in her  bowel as it be already begin the four and last occasion of these controversy a  thing which do also trouble the church in former time be the partial  affectation and imitation of foreign church for many of our man during the  time of persecution and since have be conversant in church abroad and receive  a great impression of the government there ordain have violent seek to intrude  the same upon our church but I answer to come together in eastern quoth  it agrees together agreed non in eastern quoth retreat be let we agree in this  with every church to do that which be convenient for the estate of it self and  not in particular custom although their church have receive the better from  yet many time it be to be seek non quid optimum say e good quid neighbor not  what be best but of good thing what be next and ready to be have our church be  not now to place it be settle and establish it may be in civil state a  republic be better then a kingdom yet God forbid that lawful kingdom shall be  tie to inovate and make alteration who mala to lead in will God attack  to unveil in word who new to lead in will God attack to unveil in rebus he  that bring in ill custom resist the will of God reveal in his word he that  bring in new thing resist the will of God reveal in the thing themselves  consul foresight God come word God take counsel of the providence of God as  well as of his word neither yet do I admit that their from although it be  possible and convenient be better then we if some abuse be take away the party  and equality be a thing of wonder great confusion and so be a ordinary  government by synod which do necessary ensue upon the other it be hard in all  cause especial in matter of religion when voice shall be number and not weigh  truly say a wise father ut veer quoth res be scribe forwards to decide to flee  all men  convent an overseer no one for council good exit ever see  to take counsel for non to make small mala say to increase rather to say the  truth I be utter determine never to come to any Council of bishop for I never  yet see good end of any Council for counsel abate not ill thing but rather  increase they which be not so much to be understand of general counsel as for  synod gather for the ordinary government of the church as for deprivation of  bishop or such like case which mischief have teach we the use of archbishop  and patriarch and primate as the abuse of they since have cause man to mislike  they but it will be say look to the fruit of the church abroad and we to which  I say I beseech the lord to multiply his blessing grace upon these a hundred  fold but yet it be not good we fall a number they it may be our peace have  make we wanton it may be also though I will be loath to derogate from the  honour of those church be it not to remove scandal that their fruit be as  torch in the dark which appear great a far off I know they may have some more  strict order for the repress of sundry excess but when I consider of the  censure of some person as well upon particular man as upon church I think of  the say of a platonist who say certain vine choleric birth mind are step  praviora how  worthy to be longed for even if to cover a matter that appear  well by the ancient contention of bishop God grant we may contend with other  church as the vine with the olive which of we bear best fruit and not as the  brier with the thistle which of we be most unprofitable and thus much touch  the occasion of controversy now brief to set down the growth and progression  of these controversy whereby will be verify the wise counsel of Salomon that  the course of contention be to be stop at the first be else as the water which  if they get a breach will hardly ever be recover it may be remember how that  on their part who call for reformation be first propound some dislike of  certain ceremony suppose to be superstitious some complain of dumb minister  who possess rich benefice some make invective against the idle and monastical  continuance within the university by those who have live to be resident upon  and such like cause thence they go on to condemn the government of bishop as a  hierarchy remain to we of the corruption of the Roman church and to except to  sundry institution as not sufficient deliver from the pollution of former time  and last they be advance to define of a only and perpetual from of policy in  the church which without consideration of the possibility or foresight of  peril or perturbation of the church state must be erect and plant by the  magistrate here they stay other not able to keep foot on so steep a ground  descend further that the same must be enter into and accept by the people at  their peril without attend the establishment of authority and so in the mean  time they refuse to communicate with we repute we to have no church this have  be the progression of that side I mean of the generality for I know that some  person be of the nature not only to love extremity but to fall to they without  degree be at the high stream at the first the other part that maintain the  present government of the church have not keep one tenor neither first those  ceremony which they pretend to be corrupt they maintain to be thing  indifferent and oppose the example of the good time of the church to that  challenge that be make unto they because they be use in the latter  superstitious time then be they also content mild to acknowledge many  imperfection in the church as tares come up among the corn which be not as yet  accord to the wisdom of our saviour Christ to be without strife pull up lest  it may spoil and supplant the good corn but to grow on together till the  harvest after this they grow to a more absolute defence maintenance of order  of the church and stiff to hold that nothing be to be innovated partly because  it needs not and partly because it will make a breach upon the rest thence  exasperate through contention they be fall to a direct condemnation of the  contrary part as of a sect yea and some indiscreet person have be bold in open  preach to use dishonourable and derogative speech and censure of the church  abroad and that so far as that some of our man as I have hear ordain in  foreign part have be pronounce to be no lawful minister thus we see the  beginning be modest but the extreme violent so as there be now almost as great  a distance of either part from it self as be at the first of one from the  other and sure though my meaning and scope be not as I say before to enter  into the controversy themselves yet I do admonish the maintainer of the above  nam discipline to weigh and consider serious and attentive how near they be  unto those with who I know they will not join it be hard to say that the  discipline which they say we want be one of the essential part of the worship  of God and not to affirm that the people upon peril of their salvation without  stay for the magistrate be to gather themselves unto it I demand if a civil  state shall receive the preach and baptism and exclude the sacrament of the  supper be not man bind upon danger of their soul to draw themselves to  congregation where they may celebrate that ministry and not content themselves  with that part of worship which the magistrate have authorize this I speak not  to draw they into mislike of other but into a more deep consideration of  themselves perhaps non Of persons because to come forth suum non  to come to know again I say to my lord the bishop that it be hear for they to  avoid blame in the opinion of a indifferent person in stand so precise in  alter nothing law perf. of nosco law non recreate descunt law be not refresh  with new law wax sour who mala non exchange  in good non persist without  change of ill a man can not continue the good to take away abuse supplant not  good order but establish they wayward custom restraining back res to trouble  littera ac restored state  be a contentious retain of custom be a turbulent  thing as well as innovation a good husbandman be ever prune and stir in his  vineyard or field not unreasonable indeed nor unskilful for he light ever find  somewhat to do we have hear of no offer of the bishop of bill in parliament  which no doubt proceed from they to who it proper appertain will have every  where receive acceptation their own constitution and order have reform little  be nothing amiss can any man defend the use of excommunication as a bear  process to lackey up and down for duty and for fee it be the great judgement  next unto that general judgement at the last day be there no mean to nurse and  train up minister for the yield of the university will not serve though they  be never so well govern to train they I say not to preach for that every man  adventure confident to do but to preach sound and handle the scripture with  wisdom and judgement I know prophesy be subject to great abuse and will be  more abuse now because the lease of persecution be increase but I say the only  reason of the abuse be because there be admit to it a popular auditory and it  be contain with a private conference of minister other thing may be speak of I  pray God inspire the bishop with a fervent love and care of the people and  that they may not so much urge thing in controversy which all man confess to  be gracious and good and thus much for the second part now as to the three  part of unbrotherly proceed on either part it be direct contrary to my purpose  to amplify wrong it be enough to note and number they which I do also to move  compassion and remorse on the offend side and not to animate challenge and  complaint on the other and this point as reason be do chief touch that side  which do most in an unjust manner able are injury come from they that have the  upper hand the wrong of they that be oppress of the government of the church  towards the other may hardly be dissemble or excuse they have charge they as  though they deny to pay tribute to Caesar and withdraw from the civil  magistrate their obedience which they ever perform and teach they have sort  and couple they with the family of love who heresy they have labour to descry  and confute they have be swift of credit to receive accusation against they  from those that have quarrel with they but for speak against sin and vice  their examination and inquisition have be straight swear they to blank  generalty not include within the compass of matter certain which the party  that take the oath be able to comprehend which be a thing captious and  strainable their urge of subscription to their own article be but lacescere  enrages sickly to illness church which otherwise will spend and crush  themselves non general consensus seek say separation auget who quoth factis to  word to drive out he seek not union but division which exact inward that which  man be content to yield in outward action and it be true there be some which  as I be persuade will not easy offend by inconformity who notwithstanding make  some conscience to subscribe for they know this note of inconstancy defection  from that which they have long hold shall disable that good which otherwise  they will do for such be the weakness of many that they think their  Ministeries shall thereby be discredit as for their easy silence of they in  such great scarcity of preacher be to punish the people and not they Ought  they not I mean the bishop to keep one eye open to look upon the good that  those man do not to fix they both upon the hurt that they suppose come by they  indeed such as be intemperate and Incorrigible God forbid they shall be permit  to teach but shall every inconsiderate word sometime captious watch and for  the most part hardly enforce be as it be a forfeiture of their voice gift in  teach as for particular molestatios I take no pleasure to recite the if a  minister shall be trouble for say in baptism do you believe or do thou believe  if another shall be trouble for pray for her majesty without addition of her  style whereas the very from of prayer in the book of common prayer have thy  servant Elizabeth and no more if a three shall be accuse upon these word utter  touch the controversy to lift law fiat contest whereby be mean that the  prejudice of the law remove other reason shall be equal copared of call for  mutiny and sedition as if he have say away with the law and try it out by  force if these and other like particular be true which I have but by rumour  and can affirm it be to be lament that they shall labour among we with so  little comfort I know restrain government be better then remiss and I be of  his opinion that say better it be to live where nothing be lawful then where  all thing be lawful I dislike that law be contemn or disturber unpunished but  law be compare to the grape which be too much press yield a hard and  unwholesome wine of these thing I may say iris i man non service  the whole of the laws God the wrath of man work not the righteousness of God  as for the injury on the other part they be ictus a worm as it be headless  arrow they be fifty and eager invective and in some find man uncivil and  unreverent behaviour towards their person this last invention also which  expose they to derision and obloquy by libel charge as I be persuade the whole  side neither do that other which be yet more odious practice by the most sort  of the which be call in as it be to their aid certain mercenary band which  impugn bishop other ecclesiastical dignity to have the spoil of their  endowment and live of this I can speak too hardly it be a intelligence between  incendiary and robber the one to rob or fire the house the other to rifle it  and thus much touch the three part the four part whole pertain to they which  repugn the present ecclesiastical government who although they have not cut  themselves from the body and communion of the church yet they effect certain  cognisants difference wherein they seek to correspond among themselves and to  differ from other and it be true say tam are more Schismatici how dogmata  schismatic there be as well schismatical faction as opinion first they have  impropered to themselves the name of zealous sincere reform as if all other be  cold minglers of holy thing and profane and friend of abuse yea to be a man  endue with great virtue and fruitful in good work yet if he concur not full  with they they term inderogation a civil and moral man and compare he to  Socrates or some heathen philosopher whereas the wisdom of the scripture teach  we contrariwise to denominate he religious accord to the work of the second  table because they of the first be often counterfeit and practice in hypocrisy  so say saint John that a man do main boast of love God who he have not see if  he love not his neighbour who he have see and saint James say this be true  religion to visit the fatherless and widow and so that which be but  philosophical with they be in the phrase of the apostle true religion and  Christianity as in affection they challenge to themselves the say virtue of  zeal and the rest so in knowledge they attribute to themselves light and  perfection they say the church of England in king Edward time and the  beginning of her majesty be but in the cradle and that the bishop of those day  do somewhat for daybreak but the maturity and fullness of light proceed from  themselves so Sabinus bishop of Heraclea of Macedonia say that the father in  the council of nice be but infant and ignorant man that the church be not so  to persist in their decree as to refuse that far ripnesse of knowledge which  the time have reveal and as they censure virtuous man by the name of civil and  moral so do they censure man true and godly wise who see the vanity of their  assertion by the name of politic say that their wisdom be but carnal and  savour of man brain so likewise if a preacher preach with care and meditation  I speak not of the vain scholastical from and manner of preach but sound  indeed order the matter he handle distinct and draw it down from authorize of  it by strong proof and warrents they censure it as a from of preach not become  the simplicity of the gospel and refer it to the reprehension of saint Paul  speak of the entice speech of man wisdom now for their own manner of preach  what be it sure they exhort well and work compunction of mind and bring man  well to the question man brother quid agem we but that be not enough except  they resolve this question they handle matter of controversy weak and obiter  and as before a people that will accept of any thing in doctrine or manner  there be little but generality and repetition they move the breed of life and  toss it up and down they break it not they draw not their direction down and  casus  knowledge that a man may be warrant in his particular action whether  they be lawful or not neither indeed be they able to do it what through want  of ground knowledge what through want of study and time it be a easy thing to  call for observation of the sabbath day and to speak against unlawful gain but  what action and work may be do upon the sabbath day and in what case and what  course of gain be lawful and what not to set this down and to clear so the  whole matter with good distinction and decision be a matter of great knowledge  and labour and ask much meditation and conversation in the scripture and other  help which God have provide preserve for instruction they carry not equal hand  in teach the people their lawful liberty as well as their restraint and  prohibition but they think a man can go too far in keep a commandment they  forget that there be sin on the right hand as well as on the leave and that  the sword be double edge and cut on both side as well the superstitious  observance as the profane transgression who doubt but it be as unlawful to  shut where God have open as to open where God have shut to bind where God have  lose and to lose where God have bind among man it be as ill take to turn back  favour as to disobey commandment in this kind of zeal for example they have  pronounce general and without difference all untruth be unlawful  notwithstanding that the midwife have be report to have be bless in their  excuse and Rahab be say by faith to have conceal the spy far I hear some  sermon of mortification which I think with very good meaning they have preach  out of their own experience and exercise and thing in private counsel not  unmeet but sure no sound conceit much like to parson his resolution or not so  good rather apt to breed in man weak opinion and perplex despair then filial  and true repentance which be seek another point of great inconvenience and  peril be to entice the people to hear controversy and all manner of doctrine  they say no part of the counsel of God be to be suppress nor the people  defraud so as the difference which the apostle make between milk and strong  meat be confound and his precept that the weak be not admit to question  controversy take no place but most of all it be to be suspect as a seed of  further inconvenience for manner of handle the scripture for while they seek  express scripture for every thing and that they have in a manner deprive  themselves and the church of a special help and support by embrace the  authority of father they resort to naked example conceit inference and force  allusion such as do bring ruin to all certainty of religion another extremity  be that excessve magnify of that which though it be a principal and holy  institution yet have limit as all thing else have we see in a manner  wheresoever they find in the scripture the word speak of they expound it of  preach they have make it almost of the essence of the sacrament of the lord  supper to have a sermon precedent they have in manner annihilate liturgy and  from of divine service as for the life of the good monk and eremites of the  primitive church I know they will condemn a man as half a papist if he shall  maintain they as other then profane because they hear no preach in the mean  time what preach be and who may be say to preach they make no question but as  far as I see every man that speak in chair be count a preacher but I be assure  that not a few that call whole for a preach ministry deserve to be of the  first themselves that shall be expel these and some other error and  misproceedings they do fortify and increase by be so great addict to their  opinion and impatient to hear contradiction or argument yea I know some of  they that will think be a tempt of God to hear or read what may be say against  they as if there can be a quoth good e to hold without a all things  probate  go before this may suffice to offer unto themselves a view and consideration  whether they do well or no to correct assuage the partiality of their follower  and dependent for as for any man that shall hereby enter into a contempt of  their ministry it be but his own hardness of heart I know the word of  exhortation do chief rest upon these man and they have zeal and hate of sin  but again let they take heed that it be not true which one of their adversary  say against they that they have but two small want knowledge and love and so I  conclude the four part the last point teach the due publish and debate of  these controversy needs no long speech this strange abuse of antique and  pasquil have be touch before so likewise I repent not that which I say before  that a character of love be more proper for debate of this nature then that of  zeal as for all direct and direct glance or level of man person they be ever  in these case disallow last whatsoever be pretend the people be no meet judge  or arbitrator but rather the moderate quiet and private assembly of the  learned who at in capace to speak non dispute say  trickery the press pulpit  will be morefreed and discharge neither promotion on the one side nor glory  and heat on the other ought to continue these challenge at the gross and such  place but rather all preacher especial such as be of a good temper and have  wisdom with conscience ought to inculcate and Beatrice upon a place peace  silence and sufferance neither let they fear solon law which compel in faction  every particular person to range himself on the one side or the other nor the  find calumny of neutrality but let they know that it be true which be say by a  wise man that neuters in contention be better or worse then either side these  thing have I in all sincerity and simplicity set down touch the controversy  which now trouble the church of England and that without all be or insinuation  and therefore not likely to be grateful to either part notwithstanding I trust  what have be say shall find a correspondence in their mind who be not embark  with partiality and which love the whole better then the part whereby I be not  out of hope that it may do good at least I shall not repent my self of the  meditation Finis